Monster Stories Podcasts Episodes and Notes
18. Daddy’s Home: The Battlefield of Birth--The Narcissistic Parent and his Apprenticeship
Please listen to this episode. It is the most difficult set of stories I’ve offered you because of the raw truths and violent moments I’ve heretofore never enunciated. How does the child make it through all the violence and trauma she is subjected to while in the womb? How does she develop in the very early years? Although the entire 22-year marriage to the psychopath, Dr. Mario was replete unspeakable horrors, there were years in each location (New Mexico, Vermont, Peaks Island, Oakland, CA) which were filled particularly grotesque acts of sadism but Dr Mario.
You now can hear how “Monster Stories” was coined by Dr. Mario as he spoke and wrote about himself. I share parts of myriad recordings and notes on the podcast where he openly identifies himself as a Monster and a Not a Monster(you already have hear
Please listen to this episode. It is the most difficult set of stories I’ve offered you because of the raw truths and violent moments I’ve heretofore never enunciated. How does the child make it through all the violence and trauma she is subjected to while in the womb? How does she develop in the very early years? Although the entire 22-year marriage to the psychopath, Dr. Mario was replete unspeakable horrors, there were years in each location (New Mexico, Vermont, Peaks Island, Oakland, CA) which were filled particularly grotesque acts of sadism but Dr Mario.
You now can hear how “Monster Stories” was coined by Dr. Mario as he spoke and wrote about himself. I share parts of myriad recordings and notes on the podcast where he openly identifies himself as a Monster and a ..Not a Monster (you already have heard how confused and subhuman these creatures are). What a world it would be if boundaries were enforced between narcissists and non-narcissists/socio/psychopaths, rather than determined by ethnic and religious difference; religion and ethnicity so inconsequential in comparison to the danger of narcissism.
Here, I speak of the way narcissism impacted me and my little daughter from the time I found I was pregnant. What is it like to go through a gestational period knowing deafening decibels of violence daily? What might it be like to be felled as an embryo daily on gravel, concrete, hard ground? The pregnancy becomes a battlefield where the mother is in a constant fight or flight mode. She is living on adrenaline (cortisol flowing through her body); trauma is the constancy; melancholia is the atmosphere; the baby grows for nine months on the front lines and is born in the trenches (this trauma applies to a father who has a borderline wife as well).
Why doesn’t the mother (OR father) of a narcissistic/psychopath/sociopath/borderline mate simply leave? Does one every simply leave a narcissistic mate? NO. If you’ve been with a narcissist, how many times have you had to respond this ridiculously ignorant question?
Think, my listeners: Glen Close in Fatal Attraction, Jack Nicholson in The Shining, The Talented Mr. Ripley (Patricia Highsmith) – How easy was it for the prey to rid themselves of these superior and practiced narcissists? Not easy is the answer, in case you still were wondering…and what is the fate of most of them? Yes, death. The survivors of narcissists are the understated heroes in a culture obsessed with the cool calm perpetrator, rather than his/her surviving prey.
Reclamation of a life creatively lived after being with a narcissist or in extremis, a psychopath, is a heroic feat (and may positively impact the child who has been indoctrinated into narcissism by the sick parent).
The Child of a Narcissist grows up in traumatic conditions throughout gestation, then, apprentices in the rituals of deceit, dishonesty, falsity and cheating from an early age. She or he learns as a toddler that violence, rages, lying, and stealing are normal behaviors. The toddler learns that disrespect and violence toward the non-narcissist parent in the form of rages and lies, is “because the mother (or father) deserves it”, instructs the narcissistic parent (listen to the sick recordings of Dr Mario).
There is an apprenticeship that takes place with the children of narcissists. The narcissist grooms them to be similar in character. This is why so many people who have had narcissistic /sociopathic parents, end up the same way. However, there are those children who somehow find more comfort in the role model of the empathic parent, who of course is the only genuine, honest and loving parent, which the child sees.
Yet, the child also sees this truly loving parent giving care and love beyond her capacities to appease the insatiate hunger for attention by the narcissist. She also, inevitably, sees this parent victimized by the narcissist. More positively, the child may also see this parent surviving the ordeal; strengthened, and maintaining his or her integrity.
Can the narcissistic parent afford the child love? Of course not. All Narcissistic emotion is ersatz. Rage is not an emotion (not anger); it is a violent outburst. The narcissist has no capacity for genuine human emotion. The narcissistic parent imitates the gestures, sounds and emotions he has practiced and sees the other parent.
Narcissists (sociopaths et.al) look for commonalities with others in order to draw them into a false sense of camaraderie. In this way, you see how gaslighting works with the police (much of the time), with neighbors, family members. We’ve all seen this in films: how the affable psychopath speaks with the cops about his distressed wife who is desperate for help and recognition of her wretched predicament. The narcissist is skilled in shifting the emphasis away from the anguished partner and onto his supposed “ordeal” dealing with her. (Screammm) You’ve rooted for the victim in those films and cringed when the sick one, the Talented Mr. Ripley, was able to seduce the only hope his victim had for intervention from the police (haven’t you?).
This podcast is a production of Honestly Speaking LLC. Suzann Kole, Ph.D. has worked in academe and the mental health field for over 40 years. She holds a Doctorate in Clinical Psychology and Narrative Studies (an area of linguistics).
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17. "I Am So In Love With My Imagination of You." (Captivity Within The Imagination of another)
In this episode we explore how our partner or spouse may be in love with the imagination of us rather than who we really are (and/or, vice versa). We discuss the limitations caused by this phenomenon; how we may have been in this predicament for years and not been able to put it into words; how we may have felt the constraints associated with this condition of merely being the figment of another’s imagination. We explore how this captivity within the imagination of another, is psychology similar to the captor and captive in a relationship that involves a psychopath. This narcissistic trajectory may seem frightening, yet, it is crucial for our (relational) wellbeing to examine this phenomenon in our own lives and intimate relationships in order to identify if we are indeed holding another captive in our imagination, or, if we ourselves, are the captive of another.
In this episode we explore how our partner or spouse may be in love with the imagination of us rather than who we really are (and/or, vice versa). We discuss the limitations caused by this phenomenon; how we may have been in this predicament for years and not been able to put it into words; how we may have felt the constraints associated with this condition of merely being the figment of another’s imagination. We explore how this captivity within the imagination of another, is psychology similar to the captor and captive in a relationship that involves a psychopath. This narcissistic trajectory may seem frightening, yet, it is crucial for our (relational) wellbeing to examine this phenomenon in our own lives and intimate relationships in order to identify if we are indeed holding another captive in our imagination, or, if we ourselves, are the captive of another. This discernment helps us understand disgruntlement or limitations we may feel in our intimate relationship, yet, have never spoken of because we lacked the knowledge and language to identify and enunciate the phenomenon. It may have merely presented as frustration, name-calling, feeling controlled, unseen, misunderstood....or, as captor, feeling a loss of control of our spouse; our stated lover.
Being held captive within another’s imagination is common. In fact, we’ve all probably done it at one time (some more than others), as well as had it happen to us; that is, having an imagined version of ourselves superimposed onto the depth and breadth of who, in actuality, we are. When this phenomenon exists between two people in an intimate relationship, emotional and physical intimacy wanes or becomes nearly non-existent. Similarly, a desire to learn about the other, fades. A quarrelsome tenor defines the relationship. The person being held captive feels hindered in efforts to explore new areas of living. His spouse demands (however unwittingly or subtly), that he comply with the boundaries of her imagined version of him. If the captor in this case, has been relating to others in this manner for a long time, she may be unable to ever discern between the imagined person and the actual one, her partner. The captive feels trapped and bucks against an invisibility he has no words for. The relationship simply feels stultified, and he feels hopeless or, resigned.
This phenomenon can go on for years within a marriage. The captive may have succumbed to the imagined version of himself and now, actually plays the role that his spouse has superimposed onto him (and expects of him), while harboring a grudge, or great melancholia in regard to the relationship. The captor has little interest in the captive expressing concern regarding his frustration. An estrangement forms between the lovers. All efforts to explore new territory (e.g.: a new profession, a renewed creative expression, interest in new foods, people, and travel), may seen as threats by the captor who has a stake in maintaining a status quo, her imagined other behaving in the expected manner. Hence, the captive is thwarted in his efforts to fulfill certain desires and longings in life. The captive feels profoundly misunderstood or unrecognized, and, in fact, is.
Most separations and divorces occur as a result of the “captive imagination”, as, one or the other in the couple can no longer tolerate the expected norms or parameters of the relationship. We explore some of the common colloquial phrases used to describe a relationship based on “imagined love” with an “imagined partner”. We also consider what some responses may be, when we realize that we may not ever have actually been loved by our partner; that, in fact, the only love in the union, is for the role we play to appease the spouse’s imagination of us. Our spouse is in love with the imagination of love and, the imagination of the other, the lover.
Panic may ensue when this condition is recognized by the captive in a moment of clarity within a dream or introspection. The captive may suddenly see the limitations she’s been operating within that have been placed on her by her spouse. She may in an instant decide to leave the relationship in order to become herself again. She also may decide to resign herself to the situation in order to maintain a status quo. Certainly, it is frightening to awaken to this phenomenon of having never been really seen by the other, by the spouse, the lover. If years of living have been based on this condition, untangling oneself may seem overwhelming, hence, inviting the captive to ignore the realization. The captor, on the other hand, has no interest in recognizing this phenomenon, he has happily operated this way most of his life, and, usually has no interest in learning that his lover is a mere projection; in actuality, a figment of his imagination. It is indeed a narcissistic trait to become wed to our imagination of the other, and yes, narcissism in extremis, is psychopathy.
I introduce John Fowles novel, The Collector, to illustrate the way many components of captivity with a psychopath are similar to being held captive within another’s imagination. I also speak briefly of the distinctions between the narcissistically extreme, and, more banal realms of captivity. I ask listeners this week, to ponder this phenomenon in their own lives: Are you living as yourself, or as the projected image of another ( merely a figment of your spouse’s).
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This podcast is a production of Honestly Speaking LLC. Suzann Kole, Ph.D. has worked in academe and the mental health field for over 40 years. She holds a Doctorate in Clinical Psychology and Narrative Studies (an area of linguistics).
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16. "This is What Happens When You Disobey" or, Keeping the Captive in Her Place
In this episode we explore some of the faces of captivity: What are some of the psychological dynamics between captor and captive? What do these experiences look like for the “average” (?!) person being held in captivity by a psychopath? The personal experiences of captivity as seen outside of the extreme situations reported in the news and made into films, may look a lot different yet, bespeak the same psychological dynamics. We look at how the entire concept of captivity has been so commodified and sexualized, that it has occluded, hence de-emphasized the importance of scrutinizing this perverse and dangerous psychological phenomenon which has been occurring for time immemorial. I make references to John Fowles book, The Collector, which most of us had to read in 10th grade when it probably made little sense.
In this episode we explore some of the faces of captivity: What are some of the psychological dynamics between captor and captive? What do these experiences look like for the “average” (?!) person being held in captivity by a psychopath? The personal experiences of captivity as seen outside of the extreme situations reported in the news and made into films, may look a lot different yet, bespeak the same psychological dynamics. We look at how the entire concept of captivity has been so commodified and sexualized, that it has occluded, hence de-emphasized the importance of scrutinizing this perverse and dangerous psychological phenomenon which has been occurring for time immemorial. I make references to John Fowles book, The Collector, which most of us had to read in 10th grade when it probably made little sense. With the decline of interest in literature, people are less able to reference psychological dynamics in books, which really are the only references that accurately develop characters and traits which describe psychological malaise. Manuals such as the DSM with its lists of symptoms and brief multiple-choice characteristics, make little sense when attempting to look at Character-Disordered people/creatures such as socio/psychopaths, or antisocial and borderline characters.
I’ve referenced some films this week which may help explore the various dimensions of captivity. The Shining (Jack Nicolson), The Experiment (Adrien Brody/Forest Whitaker), Fallen (Denzel Washington), all disturbing, somewhat sensationalized, and abstract, nevertheless, accurately portray psychological dimensions of the psychology of captivity.
I offer a number of abbreviated vignettes which were part of my own captivity, but I chose them because these traumatic and monstrous experiences are often universal to someone who has been with a psychopath either in a long- or shorter-term relationship.
How does being held captive affect the nervous system and the brain’s amygdala function? How can the psychopath maintain captivity when his or her prey is at a distance? How does the violent raging of a psychopath affect a child who is part of the union? Please listen to this episode to learn more. And visit the website for links, additional notes, and contact information, www.monsterstoriespodcast.com. T
In the podcast I make a reference to being punished by the “respected psychiatrist” Dr Mario, when he tells the police I am a danger to myself. At this warning, the police are obliged to act and did so by chalking me and taking me to be psychologically evaluated. “Dr. Mario” abuses his power in order to punish his “disobedient prey” for rejecting him at a conference due to his raging. When I was in the squad car, the cop told me he knew my husband was a wanker but had to heed the call for legal reasons. He told me to calm down and It would be apparent to the evaluator that they had indeed focused on the wrong person. They were apologetic (geez thanks), and immediately filed a restraining order and got my ex-husband to leave the premises. Of course the ordeal was traumatic, but to worsen it, “Dr Mario” filed for a restraining order at my young daughter’s school. How embarrassing for her, humiliating and shaming it was for me, and an absolute hoot it was for him. Such liberty of action one has without the capacity for empathy, remorse, conscience or consequences. .
This podcast is a production of Honestly Speaking LLC. Suzann Kole, Ph.D. has worked in academe and the mental health field for over 40 years. She holds a Doctorate in Clinical Psychology and Narrative Studies (an area of linguistics).
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15. Psychopaths, Captivity and Aphrodisiacs or, “Let Me See You Beg, Honey"
Psychopaths, Captivity and Aphrodisiacs or, “Let Me See You Beg, Honey”
Welcome back to Monster Stories Podcast, Living with Evil after a brief absence during which your host took a historic tour of northern New Mexico, visiting the offices where Dr. Mario was hired into our group practice, as well as the homes where Dr. Mario first began to groom the host for a life of captivity; the house where first he began kidnapping his then, daughter (from a prior marriage). This, a trip both unnerving and reifying. How necessary it is sometime to see a place of horror with renewed vigor.
(We hear yet another simulated apology by Dr. Mario at the beginning of the podcast)
The interlude this week is some of the “keening” done by your host while she is managing to survive the horrendous trauma occurring while being held by her captor.
In this episode, we continue our discussion of captivity… how it occurs, the dynamic between the psychopathic captor and his captive. We speak of the
Psychopaths, Captivity and Aphrodisiacs or, “Let Me See You Beg, Honey”
Welcome back to Monster Stories Podcast, Living with Evil after a brief absence during which your host took a historic tour of northern New Mexico, visiting the offices where Dr. Mario was hired into our group practice, as well as the homes where Dr. Mario first began to groom the host for a life of captivity; the house where first he began kidnapping his then, daughter (from a prior marriage). This, a trip both unnerving and reifying. How necessary it is sometime to see a place of horror with renewed vigor.
(We hear yet another simulated apology by Dr. Mario at the beginning of the podcast)
The interlude this week is some of the “keening” done by your host while she is managing to survive the horrendous trauma occurring while being held by her captor.
In this episode we continue our discussion of captivity… how it occurs, the dynamic between the psychopathic captor and his captive. We speak of the erroneous portrayal of the psychopath as sexual predator and look at what his actual aphrodisiac of choice is. Furthermore, we speak of how the “psychopath as superior lover” is also a misnomer. If not superior, what kind of lover is he? Can a person devoid of sensate capacities be a “lover”? Is the psychopath able to perform sexually, if so, under what conditions? What really does arouse the psychopath?
What is Captivity and how does a psychopath accomplish it? Why are others so unable to see a captive and notice how s/he’s suffering? Why are people so unwilling to believe in the pathological paradigm of psychopathic captor and captive? How is this pathological dynamic maintained in secrecy and when does it begin to be exposed?
Gaslighting is a tool for maintaining captivity. The more the captive doubts herself the more removed she becomes from a reality check as it were. S/he is moving about her life and career burdened with various physical and psychological traumas inflicted on her by the psychopath, while also being told that she is not doing enough; that she is not strong enough; that she is not enduring enough. The captive may be a person who has often felt to be not enough throughout her life, hence the psychopath is able to capitalize on this predisposition as he insinuates himself into her psychological state. Similarly, friends, colleagues, neighbors, family surrounding the captor and captive are indoctrinated into a brainwashing that the psychopath is always manufacturing in order to protect his image, his veneer, his mask of sanity. He is pointing at his prey and speaking of how he or she is ill; exposing her idiosyncrasies; creating plausible tales about her as the captive become increasingly isolated within shame, a confused identity and melancholia.
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14 Psychopathic Captivity Part 1: Confessions of a Former Captive
This season opens with a few stumbling words introducing the psychology of captivity. In subsequent episodes we will continue to explore this topic which is rarely spoken of. Why do we not hear the voices of the escaped captives more frequently? …Because the majority of captives are never released by their psychopathic captors. Many captives die from bodily harm inflicted upon them by their captors. Many take their own lives to liberate themselves from a situation which seems to afford no exit. Others are left in a severely traumatized state and have no desire to remember the horrific period of captivity. Shame is another muting feature–there is a tremendous amount of shame associated with this topic captivity, especially for professionals, yet, professional people are the main targets of the psychopath. The psychopath looks for people who will serve him. This utility-va
This season opens with a few stumbling words introducing the psychology of captivity. In subsequent episodes we will continue to explore this topic which is rarely spoken of. Why do we not hear the voices of the escaped captives more frequently? …Because the majority of captives are never released by their psychopathic captors. Many captives die from bodily harm inflicted upon them by their captors. Many take their own lives to liberate themselves from a situation which seems to afford no exit. Others are left in a severely traumatized state and have no desire to remember the horrific period of captivity. Shame is another muting feature–there is a tremendous amount of shame associated with this topic captivity, especially for professionals, yet, professional people are the main targets of the psychopath. The psychopath looks for people who will serve him. This utility-value in others is his only interest in assessing them for a relationship of any kind. Professionals serve the psychopathic captor with their money and status. Being with a professional, or so the psychopath reasons, helps him maintain the appearance of normalcy. Please return for further notes dispelling the erroneous notions of the Stockholm Syndrome, the enabler, and the psychopathic sexual predator (ha!).
The hostage never becomes inured to captivity or pain, contrary to pop-culture psychology; s/he never learns to care deeply, compassionately, or sexually for the captor. Rather, she learns how to play the game that s/he feels will keep her alive. She placates the captor by pretending to speak with him as though they were in a normal relationship; as though she were not being held captive. She is aware of his delusional world and plays the part she feels may be to her best advantage in terms of avoiding more serious injury; more punishments; continued captivity; death.
The Psychopath has no capacity for sexual feelings. His interest is in power. He is only aroused by pain and suffering in others, hence he has a penchant for necrophilia. (more notes shortly…and tune into subsequent episodes)
The medical professions commodifies psychopaths and their captives. The titillation-value appears to be the greatest money-maker, hence, harmful psychological/psychiatric assumptions are made from cursory knowledge. For example, “scientific observations” from afar, utilize fragments of information shoddily gathered from random survivors of captivity to create terms such as the Stockholm syndrome (coined in the 1970s re: Patty Hearst). This term, although not accepted by the rare thoughtful psychologist/psychiatrist, is a widely held pop-psychological colloquialism suggesting that a hostage learns to feel deeply for his or her captor. The meaning also extends to sexual fantasies suggesting that the captive actually enjoys the bondage she is held in by a psychopath.
How sickening it is when lawyers and others have assaulted me with such facile musings. Some male listeners of this podcast have also asked to meet me, only to raise the question of my sexual appetite for pain, “Come on now, didn’t you enjoy it just a little???”. These inquiries, as well as the plethora of Serial Podcasts and Prime shows romanticizing the psychopathic mind, confirms a belief that our society is concerned solely with titillation and a proclivity for sadomasochistic behavior. This is what draws a constituency….EXCEPT, of course, when you or someone you love becomes ensnared with a psychopath. It is then, that your neighborhood associations are important; that the voice of victims and survivors are momentarily of interest. Otherwise, this topic is tedious, am I right? Unless, you yourself are a psychopath, a malignant narcissist, as is Dr. Mario.
Our thanks goes out this week to Dr. Mario for another of his confessions of ignorance, rage and psychopathic abuse, heard in the interlude and outro of the episode…..let’s see, was this before he crushed the bones on the left side or the right…
The Psychopath has no capacity for sexual feelings. His interest is in power. He is only aroused by pain and suffering in others, hence he has a penchant for necrophilia. (more notes shortly…)
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13. Does it Matter that Your Physician is a Psychopath?
What matters in our interactions with others? What aspects of character do we trust are integral to our relationships? What if your physician, your neighbor or your lawyer was a narcissist (a psychopath), hence, one of the 25%+ of the global population who has no capacity for genuine human emotion? In other words, what if your physician was born without the capacity to know suffering or understand pain? Would this matter to you? These are the difficult questions we are increasingly being forced to consider each day when so many people among us are merely impersonating sentient human beings in order to blend in. Psychopaths are the great imposters. They spend much of their lives creating friendships with sensitive people in order to study them and/or take advantage of them. Because they have a narcissistic disorder, psychopaths blameless admit to these impersonations of human facial gestures, sounds, words, tonalities which are indicative of emotional expression.
What matters in our interactions with others? What aspects of character do we trust are integral to our relationships? What if your physician, your neighbor or your lawyer was a narcissist (a psychopath), hence, one of the 25%+ of the global population who has no capacity for genuine human emotion? In other words, what if your physician was born without the capacity to know suffering or understand pain? Would this matter to you? These are the difficult questions we are increasingly being forced to consider each day when so many people among us are merely impersonating sentient human beings in order to blend in. Psychopaths are the great imposters. They spend much of their lives creating friendships with sensitive people in order to study them and/or take advantage of them. Because they have a narcissistic disorder, psychopaths blameless admit to these impersonations of human facial gestures, sounds, words, tonalities which are indicative of emotional expression.
Who wants to speak of narcissism and psychopathy when it’s such a depressing topic? Can we just forget it exists and pretend that all those we meet are worthy of our trust? Can we elect to watch films about Ted Bundy, leave the theater, and naively feel liberated from such people when a quarter of the population is narcissistic?
What about the moral decay caused by narcissists? Do we care if we no longer can tell who to trust and who is an imposter? When we hire a caregiver for our elderly parent, or, hear that a sibling, child or neighbor is stopping by to visit that parent, we trust that our parent is in good hands. Yet, yesterday on the news, a plea went out worldwide, asking us to be suspicious of caregivers, as increasingly, they are narcissists, often guilty of heinous crimes. Moral decay takes on an entirely new meaning when we consider how many people are born incapable of knowing pain, giving care, feeling love. Integral our social fabric is the assumption (desire for) honesty, respect and trustworthiness which narcissists are incapable of. They have no concept of personal boundaries.
What level of Madmax (film) dystopia must we see in order to awaken to the erosion of our moral fabric due to the proliferation of narcissists? Living in a perpetual state of suspicion is exhausting, sorrowful, impossible for most of us who inherently are generous and loving. We sentient human beings see distress and register pain as a call to aid another. We enjoy reciprocal care and thoughtfulness. Most of us unwittingly depend on mutual trust when we interact with another.
“Dr Mario”, the main but not sole antagonist of the podcast, abused his daughter and lost all parental rights to her. There are many “Dr. Mario”s. He abused his parents, siblings, wives, children, associates. He was in jail on several occasions due to these crimes. He has evaded the law and kept his crime hidden on that mask of affability until cornered in several situations. He paid punitive damages to the little girl and her mother in order to stay out of jail. He continues to practice as a psychiatrist with no apparent flaw to his record. He has no capacity to feel the pain of others so causes pain with impunity. Narcissists strive for positions of power. What if Dr. Mario were your doctor, would it matter?
12. How Can You Discern the Difference Between a Psychopath and An Authentically Kind Person?
This episode opens with a word of advice from Dr. Mario.)
How do you know you are interacting with a sociopath, a borderline personality, a psychopath, a monster, when at first, they seem so affable, so interested in who you are, so aware of your needs and how to fill them?
How do we know that the person next to us who affords momentary relief when our grocery bag rips, or, offers a compliment when we’re feeling glum, is a sociopath rather than a thoughtful stranger? How does one discern between a meddling sociopath, and, an authentically kind individual who has approached you with genuine interest and compassion?
We return to the thread of an earlier narrative, Meeting Dr. Mario, The Psychopath, to explore the questions posed in this episode.
We can only detect someone is a sociopath after several interactions with him/her, and even then, we may not realize we are interacting with a monster. The well-practiced psychopath seamlessly (more note below)
(This episode opens with a word of advice from Dr. Mario.)
How do you know you are interacting with a sociopath, a borderline personality, a psychopath, a monster, when at first, they seem so affable, so interested in who you are, so aware of your needs and how to fill them?
How do we know that the person next to us who affords momentary relief when our grocery bag rips, or, offers a compliment when we’re feeling glum, is a sociopath rather than a thoughtful stranger? How does one discern between a meddling sociopath, and, an authentically kind individual who has approached you with genuine interest and compassion?
We return to the thread of an earlier narrative, Meeting Dr. Mario, The Psychopath, to explore the questions posed in this episode.
We can only detect someone is a sociopath after several interactions with him/her, and even then, we may not realize we are interacting with a monster. The well-practiced psychopath seamlessly insinuates himself into our lives; into even the most learned person’s life as an undetected toxin. Once this occurs, we are his prey, henceforth unwittingly serving him….unless, of course, we awake from our state of mesmerization, realizing how we’ve been duped by an imposter. (see www.monsterstoriespodcast.com, for complete episode notes)
As a third party in a pathological triangle, (which occurs when the phenomenon of gaslighting is taking place), a person may never discover how they’ve served the monster’s need to sever his prime target from the rest of the world; to punish her/him. They may never realize their sinister alliance with the monster; how they did his bidding for him (see previous episodes for more on gaslighting and, pathological triangles).
In responding to the query, how do we know the veracity of the person we’re interacting with, I share a thumbnail version of my own unwitting induction into the life and machinations of this sinister fellow, Dr. Mario, the main (but not sole) antagonist in this podcast. I pick up after having been deemed, The Chosen One by Dr. Mario. Monsters always cause their prime target prey to feel unique; especially chosen; the one person who they’ve been searching for. I share some of the methods the psychopath, Dr. Mario, employed to foil my efforts at maintaining a distance from him; at remaining disentangled from his histrionics. I share ways he disturbed my living situation, initiating the first radical dependency I was to enter into with him.
You, who have been in a similar situation, will, I hope, map your own journey of having been seduced into a prison of chaos created by the monster: a chaos meant to distract and entrap you. Unfurling these narratives which describe the process of my recruitment into the monster’s world; into the sociopath’s destructive plan, will, I hope, help you and others in a similar situation, know they are not alone. I speak these halting words to you aloud, to both offer solidarity, as well as alert you to the sinister dance that occurs as one is drawn into the monster’s psychological lair.
We speak of how all experiences with borderline-disordered people, whether brief or attenuated, follow the same progressive pattern of psychological manipulations. Although your wording may differ from mine, narratives which describe encounters with sociopaths, narcissists, borderline people, monsters, are universal.
The monster encroaches upon us at first, by charm and mirroring, but soon thereafter, we see distractions, histrionics, chaos, inundations, mimicking, false apologies. S/he wears away at his targets by disrupting their lives; by coming at the prey from all angles of contrived logic, ersatz humility, and false empathy. The monster always uses inundation as a way to distract his targets from seeing who he actually is; that is: a vapid being with no capacity for authentic human emotion.
We see in this episode, how I was drafted into becoming a second point in Dr. Mario’s pathological triangles. We discuss how he garnered my pity in order to create an alliance against one of his former wives, Carmen. Hence, I took part in the kind of gaslighting I also was a victim of.
I speak of my experience of finally submitting to Dr. Mario’s psychological tampering; to his disparaging notions regarding his ex-wife; to his need for compassion shown by his histrionics. I become psychologically manipulated into scorning his ex-wife; into believing that he adopted a baby solely for her as a peace-offering, as he was simultaneously calculating a divorce. I was convinced for a while, that with his wife’s psychiatric difficulties, she could no longer care for the child.
Of course, this was all erroneous information, but for a while, I was under the mesmerizing influence of a psychopath. I become his puppet, as we all do,( including my daughter, including his lawyer Elizabeth, in Maine).
Once having been awakened from Dr. Mario’s trance, I attempted to apologize to one of Dr. Mario’s ex-wives. Apologia to someone, given my own hurtful actions (however coerced,) is a humbling experience.
Have you ever attempted to apologize to one you’ve scorned while you were still held within the monster’s trance?
The capacity for apology is a very important activism in terms of healing the tears in the fabric of human intimacy. It is an attempt to re/member ourselves to a “team human” effort (for more on “team human”. see Doug Rushkoff).
This podcast is a production of Honestly Speaking LLC. Suzann Kole, Ph.D. has worked in academe and the mental health field for over 40 years. She holds a Doctorate in Clinical Psychology and Narrative Studies (an area of linguistics).
11. So You’ve Become the Psychopath’s Chosen One, How Does It Feel?
In this episode (11), and the following one (12), we return to the earlier Meet the Psychopath, narrative thread. I speak of the entire process of meeting the monster, being courted by him, and slowly being lured into his/her dense malevolent webbing. This progression, usually insidious, is characteristic of all narcissists and borderline people. As, it is estimated that 25% of the population worldwide presents with the disorder of malignant narcissist, you have undoubtedly interacted with these people and are, if not a prime target, are an unwitting puppet in their machinations.
These sick people may vary in terms of the degree of chaos they cause, but all of them are character/personality-disordered individuals. Hence, they all share the same character deficiencies. All narcissists lack empathy and to some extent or another, enjoy causing others pain for their own pleasure.
Furthermore, character-disordered people (see more below)
In this episode (11), and the following one (12), we return to the earlier Meet the Psychopath, narrative thread. I speak of the entire process of meeting the monster, being courted by him, and slowly being lured into his/her dense malevolent webbing. This progression, usually insidious, is characteristic of all narcissists and borderline people. As, it is estimated that 25% of the population worldwide presents with the disorder of malignant narcissist, you have undoubted interacted with these people and are, if not a prime target, are an unwitting puppet in their machinations.
These sick people may vary in terms of the degree of chaos they cause, but all of them are character/personality-disordered individuals. Hence, they all share the same character deficiencies. All narcissists lack empathy and to some extent or another, enjoy causing others pain for their own pleasure.
Furthermore, character-disordered people are the only classification of psychological malaise known to worsen with age.
This episode was originally published a month ago, when I was just beginning to podcast: just beginning to enunciate my own story in order to reach you, who may have never spoken of these psychological dynamics you’ve found yourself in, previously. I ask that you please, bear with my pauses as I relay the story of the psychopath’s (Dr. Mario’s) courting process with me. He is the main antagonist in these episodes.
I speak of how, from the beginning, he divided me from others (first, my colleagues, then, my small group of friends). Dr. Mario courted me with both words and deeds, manipulating me into seeing only his charming seductive masks. This is all one ever sees of a socio/psychopath unless they are a prime target prey. They have been wearing these presentational masks all of their lives. If you’ve acknowledged that you’ve encountered a sociopath, or are in a relationship with one, you know that it’s only behind closed doors and within your captivity, that his sinister psychopathic rages and evil emerge.
The monster always prepares for the future; for the point when he may be found out; for a time when others may learn of his evil; for the moment you may attempt to leave him surreptitiously. This is why he begins almost immediately to “gaslight” (or triangulate) you; to wedge lies between you and others, severing you from a support system. You then have fewer and fewer people to speak with or turn to. He launches a campaign to garner support from your friends with his charm; his congenial masks. He ingratiates himself to them. He becomes irresistible to most of your friends and colleagues.
I actually taught with a psychiatrist, Sharon, at a university in NYC. She was writing a book on psychopathic personalities. Dr. Mario and I often had dinner with she and her husband. Years later when I re-connected with her and mentioned Dr. Mario’s psychopathy, she said she’d had no idea about his him. She had been under his seductive influence for decades!
As I speak this story of how I came to be entrapped within the psychopath’s machinations, I am culling from my memories, my scars, my poetry, and the recorded singing that were a refuge for me while in Dr. Mario’s captivity of both silence and place. We who have been in this situation, understand how the monster prohibits us from speaking the truth of our entrapment to others. We know how both our attempts to leave him, and, speaking the truth to others, is seen as disloyalty by him, thus requiring severe punishments. Because the police are rarely educated regarding this kind of abuse, reaching out to them almost always backfires, resulting in punishments to us. The monster is usually able to garner support from the police and authorities hence they often collude in the punishments (more on this in further episodes).
When we tell our stories of having been with psychopaths/sociopaths, monsters, we are writing the elemental or Ur text of these experiences. We are the experts in this field; we are Anthropologists who have the essential participant-observer experiences and notes necessary to make this information available to others.
This podcast is a production of Honestly Speaking LLC. Suzann Kole, Ph.D. has worked in academe and the mental health field for over 40 years. She holds a Doctorate in Clinical Psychology and Narrative Studies (an area of linguistics).
10. The Psychopath’s Love Letters, Why They Matter and What They Reveal
In this episode we look at letters the psychopath /narcissist/ monster writes to his prey (the prime target and others), as well as letters his manipulated victims write for him.. Though I offer narrative segments of some love letters I’ve received from a psychopath (Dr. Mario), I also include one brief narrative in the monster’s own words at the very end of the episode (before Outro).
Why are the letters from psychopath’s important? First, it is crucial for the survivor of a psychopath to reclaim her own, autonomous character, however malevolent her partner or colleague has been. These letters serve as historical data; as reification of our past. Second, in all of his love letters, s/he makes blatant confessions of his crimes. He describes his torture of others, often explicitly. Third, millions of us have received these letters meant to rope us back in if we’ve been brutalized a bit too severely by him and pose a risk to his hermetically sealed captivity...
Why are the letters from psychopath’s important? First, it is crucial for the survivor of a psychopath to reclaim her own, autonomous character, however malevolent her partner or colleague has been. These letters serve as historical data; as reification of our past. Second, in all of his love letters, s/he makes blatant confessions of his crimes. He describes his torture of others, often explicitly. Third, millions of us have received these letters meant to rope us back in if we’ve been brutalized a bit too severely by him and pose a risk to his hermetically sealed captivity of silence and place. He takes pride in being able to seduce by his disingenuousness. Fourth, they are also meant to show off his talents to others; that is, to illustrate the monster’s capacity for convincing words of remorse (albeit insincere) in the event he needs to garner support from others. Fifth, these letters are written to prove how seamlessly the monster has mastered imitation of all the humane characteristics we value most. He derives a self-satisfaction in his personal imitation game.
Also in this episode, we see an example of the way a gaslighted victim, does the monster’s bidding for him (Elizabeth, his Maine lawyer, in this case). She, one of his custom-designed victims, acts as his puppet. S/he is programmed to behave in the same sinister way he does. The monster has many of these brain-washed and carefully chosen and trained victims. They are the third points in his/her pathological triangles, (discussed in proior episodes).
Furthermore, in these letters of specious contrition, there’s often the promise or inference, that the monster will take better care of himself so his prime target prey will be proud of him (!?). This narcissistic vow is always juxtaposed with his keen observations (and gruesome delight) of how his prey has been suffering as a result of his brutality–her suffering, a trophy rewarding his efforts.
Psychopaths don’t connect the pain they’ve inflicted with an actual need to change their actions/aggression, hence, we find the mind of the serial killer revealed. All monsters/psychopaths are serial killers, whether they seek to destroy their prey slowly through torture and character assassination, or plan more time-efficient forms of elimination. The love letters simply state his brutal actions as a list of achievements, couched within meaningless and verbose words of apologia. These empty words usually win over the hearts of others who are victim to his psychological manipulation. Even those who are indeed informed about borderline-disordered monsters, are usually duped by his innate and well-practiced capcity for deception.
Why are the monster’s blatant lists of antiheroic achievements not taken into consideration in court, by the police, by the myriad? In the letters, the monster readily and incessantly admits that he is a sociopath, a psychopath, a narcissist, and with utter impunity (which you’ll see in the letters I’ve posted). This is not a phenomenon unique to my experience. It is typical of all sociopaths/psychopaths. In his immaculate mimicry of regret, his words distract most authorities from his true malicious intentions and confessions of criminal activity. Authorities seem to dismiss the monster’s descriptions of keen observation of both his own character disorder, as well as the pain he’s inflicted on his prey.
Self-preservation is the narcissists only goal. His or her mate children, relatives, colleagues and others are as disposable as the material goods he compulsively buys or steals. When they cease to entertain or service him/her, he abandons them for fresh supply of toys/puppets/targets. People who feel to be “different”, more valuable than the prime target, are deceiving themselves.
Please see examples of a psychopath’s love letters below.
In this first “love letter”, please note not only Dr. mario’s confession of brutaility, but also the notarized fallacies: The 3 properties to which he refers, were not his to offer. The houses in the US had been in foreclosure for 3 years, and the home out of the country was a lease I’d obtained for him to keep a very temporary peace.
This is from Elizabth, the Portland Maine attorney for psychopath, Dr. Mario
This podcast is a production of Honestly Speaking LLC. Suzann Kole, Ph.D. has worked in academe and the mental health field for over 40 years. She holds a Doctorate in Clinical Psychology and Narrative Studies (an area of linguistics).
9. Clueless Attorneys: How Psychopaths Destroy By Proxy. Beware !
In this episode, we ponder isolation and character defamation that results from a gaslighting campaign by a psychopath, sociopath, monster. I ask you to reflect on attorneys you may have retained, who were victims of gaslighting-by-proxy (yes, an actual term), hence, only served to perpetuate the erroneous image of you as troubled (or worse), that the monster had contrived (i.e.: Dr. Mario’s contrivances, in my case). I share my own story of a Maine attorney who was an example of this insulting line of reasoning. I ask that you listen to Sam Vaknin’s youtube links on my website, to hear firsthand, how a psychopath uses psychological tactics often called “a rape of the mind”, in his/her attempt to destroy the prey. We speak of how the highly damaging weapon of triangulation or gaslighting, leaves the victim/survivor completely isolated; bereft of a past, of loving bonds, of a support system to help rebuild his/her life.
Also In this episode, I ask you to ponder isolation and character defamation that results from a gaslighting campaign by a psychopath, sociopath, monster. I ask you to reflect on attorneys you may have retained, who were victims of gaslighting-by-proxy (yes, an actual term), hence, only served to perpetuate the erroneous image of you as troubled, mentally imbalanced (or worse), that the monster had contrived. I share my own story of a Maine attorney who was an example of this insulting line of thinking that perpetuated the monster’s erroneous depiction of me. I ask that you listen to Sam Vaknin’s youtube links on my website, to hear firsthand, how a psychopath uses psychological tactics often called “a rape of the mind”, in his/her attempt to destroy the prey (see links on my website). He confesses that for the psychopath “abusing others is akin to breathing”.
We speak of how the highly damaging weapon of triangulation or gaslighting, leaves the victim completely isolated; bereft of a past, of roots, of loving bonds, of a support system to help rebuild his/her life. Hence, she is isolated within her captivity both within the narcissist/psychopath relationship, and isolated afterwards, unable to speak of her experience in an ill-informed society which most likely has eschewed her due to gaslighting-by-proxy.
We reflect on how this process of gaslighting and gaslighting-by-proxy has been a prominent aspect of human behavior for centuries. Witch Hunts, The Scarlet Letter, The Manchurian Candidate, and so many other books and films, reflect this psychological phenomenon which is rarely spoken of; this profound__ character defamation__ (identity theft of the highest order) which occurs for all victims of the psychopath; the lifelong isolation. Re-read all about it in The Scarlet Letter, by Nathaniel Hawthorne (remember this book from 6thgrade?)
Most literature on this subject offers little help due to the oversimplification of advice (just leave…rubbish.). Sam Vaknin is extremely accurate in his depictions of psychopathic machinations. JB Snow offers some literature which accurately portrays the “prey’s” experience. Psychological advice that oversimplifies plans to separate from the monster, frustrates the prey/the victim as, separating defecting from captivity warrants punishments, according to the psychopath. Sam Vaknin, a self-professed psychopath, offers the obvious: “the prey is never free of the psychopath. He owns her as long as s/he is alive. He surveils and attempts to thwart her efforts at independence, even from afar and throughout years of separation”.
Once separated from the psychopath (Dr. Mario in my case), the prime target survivor, wears the indelible scarlet letter, hence, there is no one lauding her heroic efforts at independence from captivity. Neighbors, colleagues, friends who considered her “mentally ill” due to the monster’s psychological manipulation, cling to their mythology regarding her (my/your) erroneous illness. This is not unusual, as, we live in a society where,our imagination of others is generally how we treat them. This psychological phenomenon is what the psychopath preys upon as he molds or designs his secondary victims in the pathological triangle (see prior episodes). He mythologizes his prey and creates the imagination of her (me/you!) as sick, psychologically imbalances, delusional. Society is enthralled by the psychopath. As an antihero, he offers titillation.(Dr. Mario, in my case, charmed his way into so many minds, and is no doubt, still residing there… in your head)
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Links Articles and Resources
Books and Articles with useful content, and links to articles.
Books & Articles
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In EAST OF EDEN, John Steinbeck masterfully develops the typical sociopathic/psychopathic character, Cathy, who wreaks havoc on those she encounters throughout her life. We see how she charms, fosters dependencies, triangulates, punishes, and often destroys those she encounters. Steinbeck helps us follow her machinations from childhood. Steinbeck offers us insight into the way Cathy psychologically devastates her smitten and deeply devoted lover and husband, Adam. We see Cathy triangulate between Adam and his brother, Charles. We watch Adam being lead through her complex web into a state of chaos and disorientation. We are able to feel Adam's despair during a period of lengthy disillusionment and reevaluation. We appreciate the sagacious, character, Samuel, who is able, from their initial meeting, to see though Cathy's deceptions, and, ultimately aid in Adam's renewed autonomy. (The film based on this book, only portrays the last few chapters, and is available to view on Netflix.)
East of Eden, by John Steinbeck -
This is a brief discussion of psychological mirroring
Psychological Mirroring -
This is a brief description of psychological triangulation or "gaslighting": The sinister talent of wedging lies between people in order to divide them from each other. The monster is skilled at this in order to serve his own interests. He(or she, on occasion), triangulates to isolate his prey in order to make her vulnerable to manipulation. The goal is for her to have few she can turn to for a "reality check". Triangulating or gaslighting is also used to divide the monster's target from her own sense of logic and perceptual accuracy. Divide and conquer is the monster's goal in any environment.
Triangulating or "Gaslighting": Divide and Conquer -
This is a brief discussion of how the monster uses mind-control to create a relationship that only "appears" to be friendship, intimacy, or love, but is actually a "mirage". The monster is incapable of love and truly caring about others. He may be quite practiced in all the gestures, sounds, words and behaviors which make him "appear" to be a loving human being. The more well-practiced he is, the more convincing he is to others. He is able to deceive extremely savvy and highly-educated people.
Mind Control: the Ersatz Relationships The Monster Creates -
Behind Closed Doors, a novel by B.A. Harris, is a very accurate description of the captivity of silence and the literal captivity I mention. It is chillingly similar to experiences many of us have had with the monster. The presentational mask of a happy couple conceals a complexity of cruel dynamics within the marriage. The author accurately portrays the tacit mandates of service required by the monster, as well as his complete lack of response to pain (aside from a desire to cause it), and, the exhaustion, shame and anxiety his spouse is burdened with due to the regimes of obedience she must follow.
Behind Closed Doors, a novel by B.A. Harris -
This example of keening is focused mostly on the Irish tradition (a westernized traditional comeback), however, the haunting, improvisational lament for the dead is heard in most non-westernized cultures. It is a sound or song of soulful mourning or grieving in response to loss.
Keening: a Brief history and Definition -
In this brief this video, Sam Vaknin speaks extremely clearly of how the monster, psychopath severs his prey from others to destroy her/him. He speaks of the near-impossible task of re-informing neighbors who have been psychologically manipulated and drawn into a pathological triangle. He speaks of how the unwitting prey, who is often held CAPTIVE and socially isolated, is discredited by the monster to neighbors, children, police, mental health professionals, lawyers everyone.
Psychopathic triangulation -
Sam Vaknin speaks on gaslighting and more social isolation. He is a self-defined psychopath who has used these methods of psychological control. His videos are succinct and accurate and attempt to reify the smear campaigns, captivity, and isolation the monster's prey has undergone.
Sam Vaknin on Gaslighting -
A strikingly poignant book written decades ago, offering insight into the psychology of dismissive treatment people receive when attempting to define or describe triangulation and other phenomena which defy language.
Women and Madness, by Phyllis Chesler -
Sam Vaknin speaks of the way Judges and Attorneys, are victims of gaslighting by proxy
Judges and Attorneys, are victims of gaslighting by proxy -
Sam Vaknin: "Everyone around the malignant narcissist, psychopath, monster sooner or later, is bound to be his Victim" . His victims succumb to his allure. He discards them when they cease to service him. He imitates empathy, compassion, and apparent honesty, hence they become victims as well. The sole raison d'etre of is to deceive; to find a supply to service him. "The psychopath designs certain people to inflict his role as sadist".
Sam Vaknin: "Everyone around the narcissist is bound to be his Victim" - Patty Hearst and the Origination of the erroneous "Stockholm syndrome"
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Fowles brilliantly shows the intimate workings of a psychopath as he creates and maintains an environment of captivity. Although this book focuses on an extreme literal predicament of captivity, it nevertheless depicts a universal psychology which occurs between captive and captor however elongated or brief.
The Collector (John Fowles)
Videos
- Another Derren Brown YouTube Link
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The film, The Manchurian Candidate, 1962, depicts what "a Columbia University psychiatrist characterized brainwashing as the “rape of the mind,” “psychic homicide,” and “menticide.” In 1953, newly appointed Director of Central Intelligence Allan Dulles reinforced the nation’s growing moral panic with his public assertions that the Communist world was waging “brain warfare” against the West" (W. Rosenau). This is no different from the "rape of the mind" that the psychopath is guilty of.
BRAINWASHING, THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, AND COLD WAR AMERICA -
This film is an excellent depiction, though abstract, of how psychopathy is passed on from one person to another. It is a symbolic portrayal of how easily it is for evil to be transmitted to unwitting victims who then become prey to it and actin ways they had never imagined themselves to be. The phenomenon of "gaslighting" comes to mind in this film, as we see the way each victim of the psychopathic evil colludes with the evil-doer in some fashion. I ask you to look at the implied symbolism.
Film: Forbidden (Denzel Washington) -
This amazing film is based on an actual event that most highschool psychological texts allocate a paragraph to. It portrays just one face of the captor/captive relationship, but explores, however shockingly, the malleability of human psychology. Are these born psychopaths in this film merely with latent characteristics? You decide.
The Film, The Experiment (Adrien Brody/Forest Whitaker) -
A movie based on a true story, although, the write-ups of the story focus on the female main character as the one in question (the one at fault for picking up men; the masochist). She is tortured and murdered by a psychopath, who is sexually impotent except when his prey is dead. How incredible that her murder is portrayed largely in misogynous terms through Wikipedia and other resources. Please watch the film to note it's relevance to the topic of psychopaths and sex..
Film: Looking for Mr. Goodbar -
This film accurately depicts one face of captivity even though Kubrick sensationalized it in order to get his point across
The Shining (Jack Nicholson) -
Here are a couple of links to Derren Brown on YouTube. He is a British mentalist and performer. His performances offer a wonderful example of legerdemain--the same form of trickery that is used by the monster in such a nefarious fashion. Brown’s videos, which are also on Netflix, offer us insight into hypnotic suggestion, trigger words, and mind-control. They prompt us to consider how unwittingly and easily we may be drawn into sleight of hand and hypnotic trance in spite of our skepticism.
Derren Brown and Hypnotic Suggestion on YouTube